FOOD YOU KNOW NOT OF // S04E03
What’s holding back your faith? Grasping the true magnitude of God’s capabilities in even the most mundane areas of your life, trusting Him when traditional resource routes fail you, and walking forward in a godly way even when it seems you’ll lose so much…it all starts with accepting the food the world knows not of.
- What is sustaining you?
- Are you accepting His word?
- Do you wrestle with truth?
John 6, Matthew 4:4
“You know, he did it with the commandments. He’s like, look, think about the heart behind those commandments. Right? And so that’s what he encourages like, look at why these commandments are here. It will actually open your eyes”.
Michele Watson, The Pantry Podcast, S04E03, Food you know not of
“But I took on the eyes of love, the eyes of God, compassion. Um, the word, right? The word tells us to love. The word tells us to have compassion. Uh, how do we have that understanding? Right. But we do it because of this faith. See we eat, we eat this through faith. We did justice through faith”.
Shea Watson, The Pantry Podcast, S04E03, Food you know not of
Annotated Transcript
Michelle: Hey, I’m Shea and I’m Michelle. And this is the pantry podcast. And you’re listening to an episode from season four, unnaturally nourished, where we’re talking about how God nourishes us in ways that the world just can’t understand.
Shea: And we want to give shout outs to war crime at work.
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Shea: Yes, microphone check
Michelle: I think you’re really coming into your own in this podcast. I had two McRibs this week. I’m excited.
Shea: I had one and I’m not, I don’t know. It’s something about being younger and, and that food did not satisfy me, but my wife was definitely a finger licking. Good, happy little camper.
Michelle: I could have ordered like five of them because they are smaller than I remember
Shea: We’re talking about food.
Michelle: You know not of
Shea: I love it. No. Oh the world knows those. Right. And as Christians, we have something far better. We have a better banquet table. And so when we were putting this together, you know, raver, you know, you’re walking down the street, right. Dude walks up to you. Let’s kind of disheveled, you know, probably clean, you know, whatever was just kind of, it doesn’t look like that top row person, you know, or the top of the line person, whoever, however that goes. But says, eat my flesh and drink my blood. That would be a little bit awkward.
Michelle: This is not how Jesus rolled up, but I get it.
Shea: Just think about that. Like just the, if, if you’re back in that time, right. And really your mind is just set on what you see really. It’s been like that. It’s like when I look at the Bible and as you go through the Bible, all of these miracles, all of these incredible things are happening and yet people are still not grasping this idea. God is good. We serve God, but there’s always this, this little thing that’s missing. It’s like this trust, this complete faith when you’re in it, you know, it’s like eat my flesh, drink my blood. You know, we got this natural idea and we’ve got this spiritual idea. You know, in the natural, what is it? You can survive without food for three weeks. Uh, you can survive three days without water, three minutes without breath. And then we see things like Jesus going through the desert for 40 days.
Shea: Now he was in the flesh. And I don’t care if people argue me all, you want like, well, but you know, he is the deed. No, he had faith though. Anybody still had a body that had to be maintained and sustained. And in all of these things, and yet God carried him past these naturally known ideas that we know about how to survive. I call them glass ceilings. Yeah, go ahead on that. What’s that
Michelle: The glass ceilings that for certain groups of people, they can’t see a limitation when they’re looking at it, but they inevitably hit this wall that can’t necessarily be proven because it can’t be seen. And so in the walk of a believer, we don’t have to worry about that kind of issue because God has allowed all of us access to all of him. And we are able to just build our relationship. However, we limit ourselves because we, we have a glass ceiling and that glass ceiling is one. We don’t always acknowledge, but it’s the one where we have defined what being human is already before we come to Christ for a lot of us. And so then you come to Christ and you still limit yourself because you take it as a given, well, I need food. Well, I need a well I need, and I’m not saying go out there and tempt God and hold your breath for 25 minutes. Okay. You’re not, that’s not his will. I really don’t think if it is, Hey, but do not say I sent you. Okay. But, the idea is if he calls you to something and it seems like it does not like the circumstances are going to take away something that you need. I think we can trust him to have included that in the equation. And there’s many cases where he’s kind of overwritten the code of the physical limitations of humanity.
Shea: So think like marathoners. They always talk about hitting a wall, right? It’s like, boom, okay. There is no wall on the road, a brick wall there. Right. But they pushed through. And so really what he’s, what he’s saying here is a reliance. And so we were really looking in John 6, um, let’s dial this into some verses people like, yo, yo Shay hasn’t even said a verse yet. There’s something wrong. Now, trust me, there are so many verses in John 6 that I’m actually trying to stay away from digging in super theological on, on this idea because I want it to be in a conversation. That’s understandable that that can really be thought of, you know, we’re looking at John 6 and, and you know, he just finished his feeding 5,000 miracle itself. Right? I mean a miracle himself off the officer’s on bread and some fish that some little kid has and he says, sit down.
Shea: And then, you know, he walks a water, you know, it’s, it’s just a continuance of this, this idea of, of all of these marvelous things that he’s doing. And then you get down into like where he starts talking. And I don’t understand the mentality sometimes of people. Okay. I struggle sometimes to just be real, but you know, it’s like in 6:26, most assuredly, I say to you, you seek me not because of the signs, but because you ate of the lows and were filled, they missed it. Yeah. Some of them, I’m not saying all of them, I’d say some of them missed it and I don’t want people to miss it. I don’t want people to look at the world because see, they were waiting for a King. They’re waiting for somebody to come in and feed them and sustain them and, and take care of them.
Shea: They were under Roman oppression. And I mean, I’ve watched some movies lately. I mean, and, but it shows the time and it shows how the Romans were oppressing the Jews in Jerusalem. And it’s like amazing that they were looking for something to be seen, something they could grab a hold of. And I know that we go through that in life. Right. But you know, it was cool. And this is like three times he’s called the bread of life in John 6. And you, you were, we were saying, come on, hit it over it, come on the word. Right. It’s like the bread of life is the word. Right? He is the word. Yeah.
Michelle: He’s one of those people. Who’s like, he says something that on the world standard sounds one way. But when you have that veil torn, you have the opportunity to wrap your head around what he really means. You know, he did it with the commandments. He’s like, look, think about the heart behind those commandments. Right? And so that’s what he encourages like, look at why these commandments are here. It will actually open your eyes. There’s more you shouldn’t do. Even though you can write, even though it’s not renowned, you shouldn’t write what is, what is the rationale of God in this? And so here, Jesus is the word says, eat of my flesh and drink my blood. But let’s not think about him in the flesh. Let’s think about him as being the word of God, consume the word of God, drink the word of God down. It clicks. But it was hard at the moment. I mean that, it definitely throws, you know, there’s nothing like that mentioned before in the old Testament.
Shea: Yeah. I was throwing some stuff out there just, but I mean, it was being real. Cause I mean, we run across some people when we’re out evangelising. I know you had to come back in and cover me on that. Well, well hell you know that’s but, but imagine.
Michelle: Oh no, no, that lady who said she wanted to wear you.
Shea: Yeah, that was a little freaky. But Hey, you know what? We loved her with the love of Jesus, because watch this, I didn’t look in the goggles or the eyes of the spectacles of the world because in the eyes of the world, I would sit there and say, Ooh, she’s not normal. Right. But I took on the eyes of love, the eyes of God, compassion. Um, the word, right? The word tells us to love. The word tells us to have compassion. Uh, how do we have that understanding? Right. But we do it because of this faith. See we eat, we eat this through faith. We did justice through faith. We don’t turn to everything else out there like, Oh, you know what? I’m depressed, man. I’m legally at 10 BitMax. Okay, fine. Get a big Mac and then consume the word while you’re eating it. I mean, let’s be real, we can not, we can’t just stop eating.
Michelle: Don’t cut yourself off from resources.
Shea: Let me tell you something. I do know people that have fasted on just water for 40 days and that’s because they were doing it the right way. They’re doing it with God. And I’m not saying that that’s what we run out and do. Every time they were called to do it, it was something that was laid on their hearts. Right. But they could sustain because they had nourishment that came not of this world, but from above. And I do want to read the verses though, because I think it’s important that we do read this little section because it really dials us into the importance of what this means and why he’s saying it. And even at the end of a his disciples, like you, I don’t get it right. And a lot of people didn’t get it. And a lot of people went away.
Shea: A lot of people turned away, but in John 6: 53, right. It says, then Jesus said to them, most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks, my blood has eternal life. And I will raise him up at the last day here that raise him up. That’s what he’s doing. Y’all raising us up. Right? Raising us up. I love that. I get excited. I’m over here, tingling anyways, for my flesh is food indeed. And my blood is drink, indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him. See, it’s a relationship. I’m abiding in him, I’m trusting in him. I’m having faith in him as the living father sent me and I live because of the father.
Shea: So he, who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven. Not as your fathers ate manna. Yeah. Right. They had manna and are dead. He who eats of this bread will live forever. That is dialed in. That’s where we sit. You know, it’s, it’s kind of like when I was talking about earlier, he said, man, you don’t see me. You seeking the bread, you seeking the, what you can see you’re seeking the loaves and the fish. Yeah. Cause I fed 5,000. You, but did they not know? Did they not know a handful of fish and a couple of loaves of bread or a few lows be, you know, more specific turned into enough to feed 5,000 to where they were full.
Michelle; And there was more than 12 bushels or baskets full at the end of extra of excess.
Shea: And that’s just the men 5,000 men that doesn’t count the women and children and everybody else that was with him
Michelle: Because they say a little boy to prove there were people other than men there,
Shea: It’s amazing. It’s utterly amazing. And yet people chased him for the food because they were going through something. They were seeking something. They were looking for something hard. It wasn’t easy taxed on top, top attacks on top of tax on top of tax, right government on top of government on top of government, on top of government, not knowing which direction things were coming at them, but they wanted a King, but they misunderstood his purpose to be there because it was greater. It was eternal. We don’t want to labor after food that perishes, but we want the food that endures to eternal.
Michelle: It’s not that you shouldn’t pray for the quote unquote small things. We should pray for all things. But I think a lot of the time, what you pray for kind of reveals what you think God can provide prayers that are focused on this existence, this time and resources that do fade again, you should always pray for those things, but when you hear those over and over, but you’re not hearing the ones with that bigger eternal mindset. It’s a question of, have you unlocked that realization that he can provide more because he can. That’s the exciting, happy part of this is that he can, we have this exciting opportunity to pray for things that seem impossible. You know, because we saw here, they were praying and following for the natural resources he could provide. And it’s okay to pray for that. But again, you can pray for more. You can pray for eternal level things. As often as you want, you don’t have to kind of hold them. Like that’s a reserved resource. You can only pray for that once a day. You know, you can pray for it as much as you want.
Shea: Sometimes the prayers that we throw out, I can look at my own. I said to say, Oh, how superficial is that? How one sided for me was that, you know, and it’s like, but as we grow in faith and we grow in the word and we grow in the trust, those prayers change, it’s like you throw in a lot more of your will be done. You know, it’s kind of like, I don’t know where else to go. Sometimes, you know, we’re coming out 2020. There’s a lot of things that hit us. And this might be a conversation for decades or we all go home tonight.
Shea: And for y’all that don’t understand. That means we going home to heaven. It would be a rapture. I just throwing it out there. There might be some people listening might not know that. But when I say going home, that’s what I’m talking about. I’m talking about eternal, happiness, joy, no more suffering, no more pain. But we start praying for these things and start trusting in these things. Because I think sometimes he puts us through these things or allows them let’s listen. Let’s correct. That allows these things to happen. And the faithful will grow the ones who really dig in and say, you know what? They will be done. They will be done. I can’t pollute myself. I need to be eating healthy food. I need to stop polluting myself with unhealthy food. I need to stop polluting myself with the words and wisdom of the world. I need to start giving the healthy food of wisdom and word from above. Right. I gotta be healthy. It’s the food that they know. Not of. Yeah. And it’s like the rest of the world doesn’t get it. They think we’re lunatics. They think we’re crazy. They think what are you even, what are you smoking?
Shea: Had people sit there and say, are you still doing something? Why are you smoking? I’m like, no, he’s this good? Yeah. He is the food that I want. The foods that I desire and see Jesus even reel this back in taking it back to the spirit and to how the spirit gives life. See Jesus brought it in right in John 6:63. When you know, the spirit gives life, the spirit gives life. This is unseen. Y’all but it is what gives us life. Nothing, no one, but our father in heaven, Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit.
Michelle: Yeah. My favorite verse as of today, looking over this again, you know, John six, you know, it’s so profound and this is the NLT. So I mean, so it comes across very straightforward and it just hits on the roots of things. I’ve been saying, I think for a while. But I was like, where’s the verse for that? Right? Well, here it is John 6:43, but Jesus replied, stop complaining about what I said. I can promise you, that’s going to be a t-shirt it’s going to say stop complaining about what I said, Jesus like, yes, like right there is the verse. Okay. We are grappling with what Jesus actually said when we’re in our biggest struggles, because there’s a part of us that just doesn’t want to do a part of it. That’s hard.
Michelle: Or we’re struggling with believing. He’ll come through in a way that’s comforting to us because sometimes he comes through. But in a way that’s not comforting. It’s actually uncomfortable because he wants us to grow. Right. But regardless, there’s a struggle food, you know, not have to access the life, giving power of his words. We have to just accept what he says. We need to accept that in Genesis. It says he created the heavens and the earth, the end, no debate. He did it. And he did it. Like he said, he did. And so everything in the Bible and it was good. Right? So everything in the bite, we have to accept. God did it. God said it. God meant it. If you’re a little confused, please do look into it. Deeper, look into some theology, talk to some pastors, go to Godquestions.org, figure it out because you might be understandably confused.
Michelle: I know I’ve been there a lot, but the key is you have to sit there and not wrestle with what he’s saying, because then, I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s kind of like you’re eating it, but you’re, you’re working yourself into such a tizzy. You’re burning it off before you use that energy from that word for any good. The goal is to use the word that boldness, that fate, that energy, that joy that comes to bless others to build up others, to build the kingdom of God. So we need to keep a clear head and just accept. That’s what he says. So stop complaining about what he say y’all
Shea: Right, right. I’m already listening.
Michelle: Embrace it and be like, all right, this is going to be a wild ride. But I know it comes with snacks.
Shea: Yes, yes. I love that. So bread of life, word. Yeah. That’s our sustenance, right? Blood salvation cleansing to put together unstoppable. Right. And I’m gonna close with this Matthew 4:4, right? But he answered it is written man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes the mouth of God, y’all digest, eat, sustain through his breadth with Jesus Christ and his blood that has claimed you. Amen. Amen.
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